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In article <39C0533C.D05564D2@home.com>, Juan Jimenez
>> >> I know you kiss Bedes
>> >> feet and believe every word of Mollers crap.
>> >If thats what you believe then you are a lot more ignorant than I
>> >thought. You have zero basis on which to issue this statement, period,
>> >no matter how many rationalizations you want to come up with.
>> Ignorant, yep you are right. I was ignorant enough once to put a deposit
>> on one of Bedes cons and watched him walk away with it, then turn around a
>> years later and do it again.
>I dont care what happened to you 25 years ago with your money. Most
>adults get over it. You dont know me, and you have no standing to make
>comments about what I think about Bede or Moller.
I have seen you defend Bede and his past activities for quite a while and you
continue to defend him. I got over the lost money a long time ago but I refuse
to be quiet about Jim Bede as long as he continues to return to foster yet
another con on the homebuilders. He did it with the BD-5, he did it again with
the BD-10, and yet again with the BD-12/14. Now he has returned with yet
another scheme. As long as he continues to come back and people like you
defend him, I will continue to remind the unsuspecting that he has a record of
taking your money but delivering much less than promised, if anything at all.
>> As much hype as Moller has put out about the
>> Skycar, do you really think that he would not be telling the whole world if
>> had actually flown? (Flown doesnt mean lifted off ground but controlled
>Dont you think its about time you learn to read, and learn the
>definition of controlled flight? I said I was told the M400 has already
>flown untethered at their facilities. If you knew anything about the
>Moller facilities (which you obviously dont) you would know that its
>not big enough to do anything more than hover and maybe move a few feet
>in hover. And if you dont think lifting off the ground untethered is
>controlled flight, youve never seen a Harrier, or even a simple
>helicopter, have you?
>Try thinking before posting. It might help.
There have been a lot of experimental aircraft that have managed to lift off
the ground a couple of feet and set back down again but they could hardly be
considered as controlled flight. The Harrier and the helicopter you mentioned,
can both lift off the ground in a hover and transition into controlled FLIGHT
beyond hover. Has the Skycar demonstrated any controlled flight beyond a
simple lift off and hover? The Skycar has to be able to liftoff the ground,
transition into forward flight and return before it is anything more than a
pipe dream. Even then, the performance figures quoted on the Moller site will
be hard to achive if indeed they are even possible.
As for thinking before I post, I have apparently thought more about the real
possibilities of this pie-in-the-sky fairy tail than you have. I suggest you
post some facts instead of rumors and fairy tails.
ENOUGH SAID! Bede and Moller are not worth any more of my time and neither
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