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Subject:Re: that RICED route again
From:Rich Badaracco
Date:Tue Oct 24 11:30:29 2000
Well I dont claim to be a NY filing guru but I did ask essentially the same
question last week. I was flying to Danbury CT from Charlotte NC. I wound up
calling Washington Center and asked what routing I should expect. I planned
a fuel stop in Salisbury MD. The routing they said I could expect was V1
Dixie V276 Robbinsville V249 Sparta V39 Brezy direct DXR. That in fact is
exactly what I got. If you want to call them the number is 703-771-3475.
"Roland King" wrote in message
news:8rgtcm$7fg$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Can you NY filing gurus please tell me how I can avoid getting
> my routings from the south of NY into White Plains (HPN) changed
> to the Eastern 100-miles-out-over-the-water route via RICED?
>
> Today I came back from Florida, stopped in ILM (Wilmington N.C.)
> and, having looked at the preferred routes into HPN from all over
> the place picked Snow Hill (SWL), Sparta (SAX), V39, BREZY.
>
> There isnt a preferred route from North Carolina but lots of
> the preferred routes that there are go via SAX-V39-BREZY. So I
> didnt try to file through the B and I gave them a pretty good
> hint that I wanted to go West of NY.
>
> Of course, 20 miles from SWL I get a reroute, Victor something,
> RICED, RICED.2 arrival. That route takes you miles out over water
> and it seems to me that the coastguard has better things to spend
> money on than fishing me out of the drink if the fan at the front
> stops. So I put that route into the GPS and found it on the map,
> and then negotiated with ATC for something round the western side
> of NY. Eventually I got it, not without some conversation, and
> got a route to Robinsville (RBV) which is just about South of
> the middle of the class B, then west, then North to SAX, V39
> BREZY. The only difference between what I filed and this route,
> is that this route took me north then West instead of direct to
> SAX.
>
> So I reprogrammed the GPS again and the cockpit workload was back
> to an even keel.
>
> Onto NY approach and ... the guy asks me where Im landing and
> vectors me right through the class B anyway and up the Hudson to
> White Plains. So all that hassle had been a waste of time, I
> would have been happy with the old direct Sparta, BREZY and home
> route anyhow.
>
> So - is there a cast-iron route you can file from 100 miles or
> so south of NY, round the western side, which wont get
> converted into a RICED watery-grave route? I can take the SAX
> reroute if necessary and hope for a through clearance but I am
> heartily sick of being sent west over the drink.
>
> Roland
>
>
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