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Oh yes, 4nm. If I had a buck for each time the locals at Winter Havens
Gilbert blast the Brits for doing big circuits, I would buy myself a
Gulfstream V! Winter Haven has a flying school for Brits on site- they can
account for 50% of the traffic sometimes.

Mind you, these guys fly *really* tight circuits- like turning crosswind
almost as soon as they leave the ground, with 0.5 to 1nm spacing between the
downwind and the runway. I suppose they begin their descent as soon as they
reach circuit height.

What do the FARs have to say about pattern dimensions for light a/c?

> Short final is 4NM? And people complain about wide patterns here.

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