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"Bill Michaelson" news:3CFBB68A.5060108@cosi.com... > Brien K. Meehan wrote: > > Ive observed that self-proclaimed "Liberals" occasionally believe people > > should be allowed to do certain things that non-liberals classify as > > "rights". > > Thats true. And sometimes, the word "rights" is used to describe > entitlements that many self-proclaimed conservatives would not consider > to be rights. We all seem to choose our definitions to suit our > purposes on occasion. Im not sure what your point is, so I guess I didnt make my point clearly. I was observing that, as a self-proclaimed Liberal, you show a trait that I observe in all other self-proclaimed Liberals. Specifically, you indicated a belief that a list of actions allowed by a controlling authority should and does exist. E.g. "Pilots should be allowed to carry firearms." or "People should be allowed to express dissenting opinions." The underlying belief is that a controlling authority determines what individuals may or may not do, not any other source. I would contrast this to the underlying principles of (early) American government, that all individuals are endowed with inalienable rights, regardless of the definitions of special interests or controlling authorities. (This principle has been lost within modern US governments.) The Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights enumerate specific rights that were violated by the pre-revolution controlling authority, in an attempt to keep succeeding governments from following suit. > Orwellian might be the appropriate adjective. It > only illustrates how disingenuous we can be in order to achieve > rhetorical advantages. Based on the point I was trying to make (perhaps too subtly), I take this to mean "Self-proclaimed Liberals are Orwellian and disingenuouos." > And sometimes we use labels as daggers, subtly or overtly, which is > demeaning to all participants of a discussion, in my opinion. If labels are daggers, proclaiming your own label would be akin to bearing arms. Which is, of course, the inalienable right of every individual. |
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