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Subject:Re: Which raises another question!
From:Fr. John
Date:Tue Oct 24 17:57:03 2000
Is that where "dont get your bowels in an uproar" came from? Someone trying
to use floats?

Hehe,
John

"Steve H." wrote in message
news:8t003g$2v5q$1@newssvr05-en0.news.prodigy.com...
>
> BTW, its float bowl not float bowel ! Bowels are your intestines
and
> they dont use floats!
> Steve H.
> "Steve H." wrote in message
> news:8svjea$jvg$1@newssvr05-en0.news.prodigy.com...
> >
> > Plunger primer is what I meant ! sorry I called it an enrichener
or
> > whatever, jeez ! Thanks
> > Steve H
> > "Scrappman" wrote in message
> > news:39F24C4E.589FD542@microassist.com...
> > > Most line bulbs pressurize to fill the carb bowl. Most plunger
> > primers feed
> > > fuel into the side of the carb, thus priming the motor without any
fuel
> > from the
> > > bowl itself.
> > > As for the pump, it will pull fuel up 10 foot and still keep
enough
> > fuel
> > > moving to run the motor full power, I have actually seen one suck the
> > sides of
> > > the tank in on a Quicksilver that had the vent hole plugged.
> > > Scrappman
> > >
> > > "Steve H." wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks for helping me sort all of this out guys. The
differences
> > > > between a choke and primer enricher is what got me started on all
this
> > mess
> > > > to begin with. I knew it was getting too complicated. Ill accept
> that
> > the
> > > > diaphram pump has good reliability with proper maintenence and I
plan
> to
> > use
> > > > an enricher with a dedicated fuel line.
> > > > Steve H.
> > > > "BlueMax" wrote in message
> > > > news:39f1f74c$0$34969$2a0ee87e@news.tdin.com...
> > > > > Heres the quick answer to your question......OPEN !!! With a
> primer
> > > > valve, you
> > > > > can forget the choke entirely. In fact, take it off if you want-
as
> > you
> > > > will
> > > > > never have to use it again.
> > > > >
> > > > > JWL wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe I am missing something here Mark, I really need to get to
my
> > > > aircraft
> > > > > > to try it out but its 20 miles away and its raining!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am I right in thinking if the enricher is open and I prime I
wont
> > get
> > > > any
> > > > > > back pressure on the bulb? If Im wrong and you do get back
> > pressure
> > > > then I
> > > > > > submit, Ive not only missed the point but its bypassed me
> > completely.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > john
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Mark Smith" wrote in message
> > > > > > news:39F19B6D.4BBB@trikite.com...
> > > > > > > JWL wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mark
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I might be missing the point but youve missed your m
.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Lets forget the whole issue of electric fuel pumps and
stick
> > with a
> > > > > > bulb
> > > > > > > > primer. My question is, Should you prime with the choke
(or
> > > > enricher
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > give it its proper title) open or closed? Looking at a
cross
> > > > section
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the Bing 54 if the enricher is open then the fuel, when
> priming,
> > > > will go
> > > > > > > > directly to the venturi. If you prime when the enricher is
> > closed
> > > > the
> > > > > > fuel
> > > > > > > > goes.....where? Which is the best way to prime and
> why,,,,,,,,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > again, pumping the bowel full of fuel will not prime the
> engine
> > in
> > > > any
> > > > > > > way,,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > unless you have a primer buld that can overcome the seat load
> > required
> > > > > > > to open the float needle against the weight of the float arm.
> This
> > > > > > > pressure will be in excess of the five pound test pressures I
> use
> > to
> > > > > > > test them for leaks and proper seating.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > also, over filling of the bowel will also pour fuel out the tw
o
> > vents
> > > > > > > higher up in the cast carb assembly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > so there is no good way of priming the engine by over
> > pressureing
> > > > the
> > > > > > > carb bowel with fuel by an oversqweezing of a primer bulb.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > a primer bulb can only fill the carb bowel,,,,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the enrichener is a way for fuel at the lowest point in the
> bowel
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > > > > into the intake manifold via the lever/cable operated plunger
> > which
> > > > > > > opens a new passage for fuel, bypassing the idle system and
also
> > > > > > > bypassing the main jet and related tuning parts/passages.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > if you want to directly place fuel in the intake, use a primer
> > meant
> > > > for
> > > > > > > the purpose, not a overzealous primer bulb, which is really a
> > > > misnomer,
> > > > > > > BTW
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > also, BTW, the 618 comes carbs that have NO choke/enrichener
> > > > > > > whatsoever. the carb body is NOT drilled,tapped, etc for the
> > > > lever/cable
> > > > > > > choke assembly at all.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > there is includes a complete primer system
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > all newer carbs have the primer port on the engine side of the
> > > > > > > slide,,,,,,,,,,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mark Smith
> > > > > > > Tri-State Kite Sales http://www.trikite.com
> > > > > > > 1121 N Locust St
> > > > > > > Mt Vernon, IN 47620 mailto:mark@trikite.com
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>




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