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I work a lot of hours and lately I dont have much energy to write long
posts. The Afordaplane is a best a scaled up model airplane and at worst a
deathtrap. The single plane fuselage provides little structural rigidity
and the wings is worse. He has never gotten the dam thing off the ground I
suspect it wouldnt take much to fold it up in the air, if it did fly and he
has been selling plans for over a year. I stand by my earlier comment with
Mr. Kooyman in the roll of P.T. Barnum. If you want to see a really good
ultralight design, go to sky-tek.com and check out the Sparrow, yes its not
cheap but its not a dangerous piece of crap either.

Maybe I should design a plane and sell plans without ever making it fly. I
could make plenty off the suckers that buy the plans.

Anyway I dont have the time for this group anymore. Ive been putting in
50+ hours a week at the software company I work for and Ive decided to get
a larger plane than an ultralight.

Tony

SuzinScott wrote in message
news:strotter-389C54.08092110112000@news.lodinet.com...
> And Tony, youre a perfect example of the old saw, "If it *can* be
> fucked up, some idiot will find a way to do it."
>
> I have no particular alegence to the A-plane. Nor do I know or
> particularly care about Bob Kooyman. However, I *do* care about Usenet
> and the utility of the forums I monitor. Theyre here so that people can
> seek help and ask questions, and then be aided by others with the
> knowledge and wherewithal to render assistance. It is not, never has
> been, and with a little luck never will be, a place for supercilious
> asses like yourself to take little potshots at others who are trying to
> do nothing more than help out.
>
> Now if you have a problem with Mr. Kooyman, the A-plane, or any other
> damned thing, and you feel you need to express this in a public forum
> dedicated to intelligent discussion, tell us why. Why is he a sucker? Is
> there something wrong with him? Does he have a secret agenda we should
> know about? Is there some reason he would be so unspeakably clear in his
> answer, so forthcoming with intelligent news? Or is he just a fool
> because he has a fair amount of information pertinent to the original
> question? Why, Tony. Tell us. If you have information, remember, *this
> is the place to provide it*.
>
> Or, if its a problem with the A-plane, you should tell us about that.
> Is there some intrinsic problem with it? Is it a poor design? Is it
> unsafe? I assume from your posting there has to be *something* wrong, if
> even so much as an interest in it makes someone a sucker. You need to
> provide specific, timely information, or all youve done is waste
> bandwidth and either bored or pissed off everybody else in the forum.
> And, if the thing *does* have a major problem, please please please
> contact the appropriate authories (either the FAA or the local police
> departments fraud division) and report these problems to them. Its
> very important that, if you know of a major problem, a danger to the
> public or a scam, that you do your best to stop it before it gets some
> one injured, costs them their money, or worse.
>
> So Tony, next time you want to make some snide remark about somebody who
> has done nothing but tried to do their best, or who is trying to help
> somebody out, do it behind their back and out of earshot of anybody who
> gives a damn. This isnt the place.
>
>
> In article , "Tony W,"
> wrote:
>
> > This guy is a perfect example of P.T Barnums most famous quote.
> > "Theres a
> > sucker born every minute."
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > Bob Kooyman wrote in message
> > news:8u464l$b4t$1@news3.cadvision.com...
> > > Ill add a few caveats to Deans enthusiastic endorsement.
> > >
> > > 1) Dave is way, way behind in sending out plans. I am still
waiting
> > for
> > > plans I ordered at the pre-release stage.
> > >
> > > 2) The Affordaplane has yet to fly. I mean really fly, like around
> > > the
> > > traffic pattern or down the road for a $100 hamburger. All of the
> > > flights
> > > to date have been test hops in ground effect. The plane has a drag
> > problem
> > > and wouldnt fly with the 25 hp Rotax 277. It has since been upgraded
> > > to
> > a
> > > 35 hp 2si engine but has yet to be flown.
> > >
> > > 3) It was just under the 254 lb. weight limit with the 277. It is
> > likely
> > > just over with the heavier 35 - 40 hp engines.
> > >
> > > 4) Performance is unknown. It has a drag problem. Hopefully, it
> > > can
> > > meet its advertised specifications.
> > >
> > > All that said, I have a fuselage completed and standing on its own two
> > > wheels in the garage. Id have a flying plane if I could get the
plans
> > > as
> > > promised.
> > >
> > > Bob Kooyman
> > >
> > > "Dean Pacetti" wrote in message
> > > news:t0am2ia99hdad3@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > Received my A-plane plans about two weeks ago and have been
> > > > studying
> > > > them eversence. They are extremely clear and well drawn, easily
> > understood
> > > > and very thorough. I have the fuselage almost built and it went
> > > > together
> > > > very quick and easy---just measure,cut,drill,bolt together.
Dean
> > > > Pacetti
> > > >
> > > > wrote in message
> > > news:8u2e9d$afk$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > > > > It appears the plans for the Affordaplane are available. Does
> > > > > anyone
> > > > > have a set and what is your opinion of the plans and the plane?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > > > Before you buy.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >

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