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Subject:Re: Carburetor Heat
From:Email address hidden
Date:Thu Jan 04 15:02:45 2001
On Wed, 03 Jan 2001 17:35:56 -0600, Scrappman
wrote:

> Sounds more like fuel contamination with water. To close the opening of a
>side draft would be tough. Not saying its not possible, just not likely.
> Scrappman
>
I had an Austin Mini with an SU sidedraft that iced unmercifully, and
a Rover 2 litre TC that did the same under the right conditions. About
40 F and highhumidity - ground fog at steady speeds. With the air
cleaner snout turned down to get warm air off the manifold, no
problem.
>Ken Kennedy wrote:
>
>> Mark Smith wrote:
>>
>> > I have heard of it but never seen it and I still believe that our carbs,
>> > slide types, are not prone to internal icing, especially with the oily
>> > mess we call fuel mix.
>>
>> Might other factors also be vibration and heat from engine (via proximity
>> and/or blowback?)?
>>
>> > Also, most people think it occurs when it is cold.
>>
>> Conventional aviation engines are certainly prone to carb ice in warm humid
>> conditions, but I am convinced it never happens to our Rotaxes in similar
>> conditions.
>> >
>> > Ill bet all manner of two stroke ills have been missed and the
>> > problem attributed to carb ice.
>>
>> No doubt this is so. However, I am also sure I have witnessed it.
>>
>> The conditions were just above freezing, with about a mile or two
>> visibility in fog. After maybe twenty minutes of flight, there was a
>> gradual loss of power. Limped back to base where engine barely ran.
>> Shutdown. Then frost appeared on outside of carbs. Removing the air cleaner
>> showed ice inside the carbs. Let it sit, then ice disappeared. Dropped
>> bowls and found a little water (melted in carb, then drained down thru the
>> jet?). Drained water and went again. (This was foolish, of course, >> the initial flight>, but he had to go out and look for several trumpeter
>> swans that had buggered off from his wing, and whom he couldnt chase down
>> when the engine misbehaved). Twice more in the next hour, he had to make
>> precautionary landings with the same results. For several months before
>> these occurrences, the 503 had operated perfectly. During the next month on
>> the actual migration, the engine also worked perfectly, altho we never
>> flew in the same meteorological conditions again.
>>
>> Given the above, I am totally convinced that the 503 can experience carb
>> icing in moist conditions near freezing. (Conditions in which, Rotax pilots
>> rarely operate). Maybe Mark could do some research by making a few flights
>> in similar conditions and reporting the results. This is an area where we
>> could all benefit from a little research.
>>
>> BTW, we found the swans late that night in a nearby river, having been
>> tipped off by a hiker who had seen them, then later heard our plea on the
>> local radio station.
>> kk



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